De-icing in stands, during turnarounds

An option to help de-ice the pads, the de-ice operation can be done at the stands during turnarounds…
When using only de-ice pads, it ends up forming a choke in the taxiways to the runway…

Look a aircraft de-icing at gate…

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It would add realism to the game. I definitely agree, that’s a small thing but it would help. I found de-icing more common ossuring during turnaround than on a special pad.

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Its no normal de-ice in the stand because if you have to wait a lot to take of after pushback you will have snow and ice over the wings and its a big problem … Is better and more realistic like we have now

Most airports don’t allow this as it requires special drainage at the gate to handle the glycol. Most airports have designated areas for de-icing for this reason.

Think in depends on the climate/geographical location of the airport. In the UK all de-icing is done at the gate as there simply aren’t enough icy days in the year to justify buying/maintaining a lot of de-icing equipment. I’ve been sat on a plane on the stand and told we’re 5th in the queue for de-icing cause there was 1 truck handling the entire airport.

In Scandinavia, however, there are separate de-icing pads as per the game because there are prolonged cold spells where de-icing will be needed for days/weeks on end, so it makes sense for the airports to invest more in de-icing equipment.

We have a similar issue in the UK with snow, because it’s sufficiently rare that companies don’t feel the need to invest in snow ploughs etc., so 1 large snow dump will bring the country to a grinding halt, but that’s a different story…

Did they consider de-snowing the tarmac?? I don’t think the ice on the wings is the most pressing concern for this airport…

I was just about to post this very topic actually. There’s a huge difference in infrastructure for de-icing operations depending on geography.

Mobile Services - where the snow can be intense, but it’s not persistent, there are no de-icing pads, only trucks. They do have a small place where they’ll sometimes push the planes back to in order to open up their gate for another plane, but there’s no de-icing infrastructure. It looks like the pic above

Di-Icing Pads - Like the game has, places where planes go to be serviced - bring the masses to us mentality. Less risk for aircraft damage from moving vehicles, no need for trucks to be filled up, underground infrastructure that supports the de-icing materials.

Hybrid Models - Combination of the two. I would think this is how airports with the De-Icing pads actually operate anyway. When the plane is too large for trucks to do safely and efficiently in a timely fashion, a pad situation is going to be most efficient (but shouldn’t require trucks to work) yet the small and medium aircraft can usually be serviced by the trucks…

It be nice to have the flexibility where trucks will do it on their own without a required pad, but certain plane/weather conditions won’t allow trucks, they planes will find a de-icing stand.

Otherwise, I love what you guys are doing in this game. So much fun!

FUN FACT!!

As someone who has worked at an airport, I’ll put my perspective in. Pads are a fair bit more organized and useful. I understand the WANT for de-icing at the gate, but a fair bit of airports are steering away from this for multiple reasons.

  1. The De-Icing fluid can be dangerous.
    ----- What does this mean? Multiple things. The fluid on the ramp can become VERY slick and unsafe for rampers. If the plane is being sprayed during boarding (which has happened before), you run the risk of someone getting burned by the fluids if the canopy is not all the way down, it puddles in the canopy, it can drip and run near the doors etc. If you’re not boarding, you run the risk of needing to clean it up.

  2. The space can become VERY cramped.
    ----- How so, you ask? At MANY airports, vehicles can NOT drive UNDER the jetbridge… There’s other equipment around, and you’re trying to spray a whole plane (from a safe distance) while dodging everything else around you.

  3. The aircraft may not get a full service.
    ----- While de-icing at the gate can be useful or save time, it can cause a lack of certain surfaces to get sprayed correctly, or at all. If you spray (as the picture shows) with the bridge pulled up, if anything is frozen around the door, you cannot spray it as it’s all covered.

I know here at HSV, because of our design, we push out the gate (about 2 plane lengths out) and deice on the apron there. It gives the trucks more room to move, and if the gate is needed, it gets to be utilized even though that aircraft is still on the ground.

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Bru also announced to work on a platform since they had a spil of used deicing fluid into the rain drainage system and polluted the local waters in 2017.

Let’s say you can start de-iceing services at the gate with a negative impact on the airport rating. And when you build de-iceing pads, it’s a benefit for the rating. :slight_smile: